tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post7751312173811495513..comments2024-03-28T03:27:07.147+00:00Comments on VizWiz: VizWiz Contest: Electric City has been eaten by pies and donuts. Save it!VizWizhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11408220384219218043noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post-832577361644954332013-01-01T18:32:04.120+00:002013-01-01T18:32:04.120+00:00I was more concerned with the non-source. I unders...I was more concerned with the non-source. I understand messy, but no source, and messy just not worth time.<br /><br />Happy New Year Andy!Shawn Wallworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07875560767627938393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post-62717662897777608152012-12-31T16:22:18.812+00:002012-12-31T16:22:18.812+00:00Shawn, I posted a link to the data I compiled. It...Shawn, I posted a link to the data I compiled. It's kind of the whole point that the data is messy and doesn't add up.VizWizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11408220384219218043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post-84464574598167821162012-12-31T16:21:39.266+00:002012-12-31T16:21:39.266+00:00Hi Naomi. I was quoting Tufte from the seminar of...Hi Naomi. I was quoting Tufte from the seminar of his I attended in November. I should have made that more clear.VizWizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11408220384219218043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post-73339210508414935012012-12-31T16:07:37.986+00:002012-12-31T16:07:37.986+00:00Andy I have attempted to find the original data so...Andy I have attempted to find the original data source, as you did. Since this data is obviously corrupted and un-sourced, I don't believe it should be used even for a data viz contest even to point out how bad pie charts are. I agree pie charts are 'bad' but un-sourced data is worse, and not worth any of our time.<br /><br />I'll play next time.<br /><br />--ShawnShawn Wallworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07875560767627938393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post-54179451590424777222012-12-29T14:24:33.768+00:002012-12-29T14:24:33.768+00:00What Tufte said was "A table is nearly always...What Tufte said was "A table is nearly always better than a dumb pie chart; the only worse design than a pie chart is several of them …" See page 178 of The Visual Display of Quantitative Information. Naomi B. Robbinshttp://www.nbr-graphs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post-91772339294790833712012-12-14T15:53:14.971+00:002012-12-14T15:53:14.971+00:00That's exactly the point in my blog post. I si...That's exactly the point in my blog post. I simply transcribed the data because I was not able to find the source data. If you want to fudge the numbers, I'm ok with that. The viz is the critical part of the contest. Or leave the data as is and make that part of the story. VizWizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11408220384219218043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post-8657203528926202182012-12-14T15:31:01.873+00:002012-12-14T15:31:01.873+00:00Copenhagen is also a tenth of a percent high. (100...Copenhagen is also a tenth of a percent high. (100.1%)<br />Shawn Wallworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07875560767627938393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3998628784041768080.post-13847925999313054712012-12-14T15:10:26.613+00:002012-12-14T15:10:26.613+00:00Interestingly only Stockholm is off by 1.5%, and a...Interestingly only Stockholm is off by 1.5%, and all others total to exactly 100%. This looks like an error on the part of the graphic creator.<br /><br />Do you know if the underlying data is available?Joe Makohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15643500270169278424noreply@blogger.com